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Sunday, December 2, 2012

A Nightmare of a Kickstarter (for the backers) - They Became Flesh: A game of God, Humanity, and the Fallen



You know what? I may bitch and complain about late Kickstarter projects I've supported, but not one has figuratively given a big "Fuck You!" to those that funded it. From what I've read about They Became Flesh: A game of God, Humanity, and the Fallen, the creators have basically done so.

Here's the 30 second summary:

The project was funded on 12/12/2011. It raised over $7,400 with a goal of $1,500 and an estimated shipping date of January, 2012.

The game released this past summer at GenCon, but the supporters of the Kickstarter didn't get their copies. They were supposed to get theirs before it released to the public.

Random delays, prior and after GenCon.

This little announcement back in October should have brought the drama to an end:



But, as you can see from the latest comments by those that funded the project, this was a load of shit (I'm actually surprised they allow any comments to be seen by the public).




It's released to distributors apparently. It's on game store bookshelves on both sides of the pond. Backers ain't got shit.

Here's the link to the RPGnet thread   Over 170 posts and still going strong.

This is a project creator to avoid at all costs going forward. I'm glad I don't have my money tied up in this nightmare.


8 comments:

  1. Are you KIDDING!?!? Wow... that's just... wow.

    Blacklist these people for life. Seriously.

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  2. There's a reason I used screen shots and not just copy paste - as this shit has to be seen to be beleived

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  3. Well, I guess they believe if they are going to screw their customers they need to really screw their customers and give it that 110% kind of commitment.

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  4. This looks like a perfect case for a lawsuit. Which would have the beneficial effect of encouraging other Kickstarters to stay honest.

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  5. "This looks like a perfect case for a lawsuit. Which would have the beneficial effect of encouraging other Kickstarters to stay honest."

    Ridiculous.

    A Kickstarter is you pitching in to help someone else's project get off the ground. The rewards are just that: Rewards. Not purchases. Yes, it sucks and is lame if you pitch in and the reward never shows. But that's not grounds for a lawsuit. You didn't purchase anything.

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  6. That is incorrect, hans. According to Kickstarter's terms of service, project creators are legally obligated to either fulfill the promised rewards or refund the money if they are unable or unwilling to fulfill their backer's rewards. This business that you "aren't really buying anything" is a myth.

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  7. Oddly enough, this creator had another kickstarter that was an even bigger success in Sept. 2012. I feel sorry for those backers.

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  8. Oddly enough, this creator had another kickstarter that was an even bigger success in Sept. 2012. I feel sorry for those backers.

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