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Monday, September 7, 2015

Wayward Kickstarter - Odin's Ravens - Where a Refund Offer is More Like an FU Moment




I never backed this, so it wasn't on my radar until this update. After reading the above, I have a few comments:

- If you backed the Odin's Ravens Kickstarter you aren't getting a free copy if you pay shipping - you are paying shipping to get the copy you previously backed for.

- I'm happy the backers (and the actual game designer) have found an alternate game publisher

- 2 1/2 years of silence since Odin's Ravens funded. That's more than flaking out. That's more than mental problems. That's a fucking scam and a half.

- But he is offering refunds, so I guess all of the money wasn't spent on hookers and blow.

- I stand corrected. Refund offers that by design can't be completed and a project creator that can no longer be contacted, thus, no refunds.

Well played!



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  1. UnknownSeptember 7, 2015 at 11:59 AM

    Cases like this are less concerning then the fact that Kickstarter itself seems only too happy to completely ignore them.

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  2. Greyhawk GrognardSeptember 7, 2015 at 12:11 PM

    Still and all, I have to say Osprey is doing right by the backers. They didn't have to offer anything, and asking for shipping only is pretty magnanimous, from their point of view.

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    1. Mystic ScholarSeptember 7, 2015 at 12:58 PM

      Yeah, but for every decent person out there . . .

      Kickstarter, or Vegas? I really don't see much difference.

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    2. TheShadowKnowsSeptember 7, 2015 at 4:41 PM

      As something of an antidote to this story, and in stark contrast, today Jeff Talanian delivered the PDF's from the AS&SH adventure Kickstarter that funded on June 16 (of THIS year - Gareth Skarka take note) with print copies on the way soon. Not everyone who runs a KS is an incompetent idiot or a flimflam man. Granted, too many of them are...

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    3. Mike TangoSeptember 8, 2015 at 4:12 AM

      Here here, there are some good ones out there, know how serious the team is behind it and then expect delays ;-) There are some pros out there that know how to do a good kickstarter. But there are a surprising number of cowboys, out-right con artists and slackers....

      Having said that I am super-excited to get the print copies of these AS&SH adventures, I really like the system and world ambiance....

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